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    Posted on September 21st, 2009 admin 38 comments

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    Wilkeson Sandstone Quarry, LLC is on the edge of the small town  Wilkeson, WA, (wiki) some 50 miles southeast of Seattle in the shadow of Mount Rainier. Back in the late 1800s, it was home to a large coal mining operation. Consisting of some 600 residents, the largest (only) commercial operation there now is “the Quarry”, owned by a near-relative and long-time personal friend of ours, Chuck Nelson.

    Chuck backed into running a stone quarry; seems the previous owner was indebted to Chuck and paid off his debt with the quarry. A little about Chuck: He is a Civil Engineer from Purdue, an ex-Navy attack-plane pilot (Vietnam era), and a retired Northwest Airlines 747 pilot. Chuck is an entrepreneur extraordinaire – he looks at life as a way to make money one way or another. One of his exploits on active duty Navy was to dive in water hazards for golf balls, followed by a lead business based on repurposing lead from military firing ranges, and later, to importing construction equipment from Korea, a Northwest Airlines layover, to the US. Chuck smells money where others only see smelly stuff.

    The quarry has gone from weeds when Chuck took ownership to a multimillion dollar operation with a crew of almost 10 full-time employees running full out. Some of his saw equipment runs 24/7. Chuck does not advertise – he sells all he can make. But Chuck has a problem – the huge Ogyu diamond wire saw used to saw huge chunks of sandstone dynamited from the quarry are water cooled, and produce a slurry that presently Chuck is carting off to isolated parts of the quarry and dumping. The EPA is OK with this, and the slurry, a mud-like substance, is 100% natural sandstone powder plus water. See toward the end of the first video below for evidence of this. Chuck would like to make something out of this slurry, something that can be sold for a profit. He has had thoughts of a product line for women’s depilatory or dead skin removal product but knows there are better uses. Chuck would probably provide samples of the slurry if asked. Can you solve his problem?

    Wonder what people to in Wilkeson, WA do for entertainment? See the second video below. A slide show of the town is presented in the third panel below. Music therein is by the German bluegrass band Helmut & the Hillbillys. Hank

     

    38 responses to “Wilkeson Sandstone Quarry, LLC”

    1. The second video was pretty cool. Perhaps, the sandstone powder can be used for concrete.

    2. Christopher Perry

      I was thinking the same thing. I wonder if you mix it with concrete and polish it what it would look like. If its too fine to do that can it be used as a polish for other stone work?

    3. I think concrete is a great idea. I also think that the dead skin removal product could be successful. If Chuck had it marketed as an all-natural product that was a full body exfoliate he could sell it to spas and high end beauty shops.

    4. It really does take an entrepreneurial mind to look at a by-product and think “how can I make money off of this?” I hope he’s successful regardless of what the slurry becomes.

    5. Chuck really has had quite a lot of entrepreneurial success. Understandably he is trying to find a use for this “waste” but it seems like it be difficult to find a use. The polish or cement idea is good, but how are you going to get this “waste” mixed into cement. Also, does he have enough of this liquid to actually be profitable if it was used in another product?

    6. Zacheriah Ruggles

      I actually thought of the concrete idea as soon as i saw what it looked like, i believe you could just add some cement to the byproduct and you would be set.

    7. Yea it seems like concrete would work fairly well, but it doesn’t seem like it would really be that profitable.

    8. Given the composition of the bi-product, it is possible that a hybrid concrete compound could be formulated from it. It would have to be tried and tested, but if Chuck is a Civil engineer, maybe it isn’t a feasible option because a civil engineer would have presumable seen and explored this option.

    9. This reminds me of Coors Light producing Keystone Light with their bi-products. It seems more and more companies are trying to do more with what they have rather than just putting everything to waste.

    10. I don’t know much about material sciences, but I do realize this is innovation. I hope he can find the right product for his idea.

    11. Seems like the slurry could be used for stone blocks to be sold for gardening or even tiles for flooring. Bathtubs could be another possibility. I can think of numerous uses for a mud-like substance. It could be fired into glass, or mixed in with gravel or asphalt, maybe even a paving substance for outdoors.

      I went ahead and just googled it.
      Found a nice list on Yahoo Answers:

      Uses of Sandstone

      Manufacturing of plate glass, fine table glassware, and common glassware.
      Crushed in concrete and asphalt to fill in dike and jetty construction.
      Rough and weathered sandstone is used as fireplaces, walls, and walkways.
      As decorative stones.
      As bookends, clocks, paperweights, coaster, etc.
      As flooring or paving material.
      Load bearing masonry
      Sandstone slabs and sandstone tiles are used in cladding.
      In chemical industries as flooring, wall fixing and lining due to its acid and alkali resistant properties.
      It is ideal for carving and architectural uses as pillars, arches, garden furniture, fountains, landscaping products and stone arts & crafts.
      Sandstone blocks are used as foundations and stonewalls.

      Source(s):
      http://www.mineralszone.com/stones/sandstone.html

    12. I think Phillip’s idea for stone blocks could work. Like others, I thought about the concrete idea, but it may not work as well, especially when quality concrete is needed. I do think that it would be hard to market this slurry as a natural beauty product, but who knows? This waste could be of use to someone.

    13. I feel it can be used similarly as the plaster of paris to build designs and pottery kind of stuff.

    14. Using the concrete is quite an innovative idea. Hope he can make it.

    15. Chuck seems to be having success with his profitable business. Its amazing that Chuck doesn’t advertise at all for his business and he is still making money. I think that the dead-skin removal is a good idea and many women are looking for the next big thing to keep skin glowing. He may try using it as a lubricator for other tools.

    16. I think that the sand could be used for some type of jewelry for both men and women. This could be sold to make huge profits in the market.

    17. I think using the slurry as a plaster of paris is a good idea. Mixing it into concrete also seems like a good way to make use of the excess waste but I am not sure how profitable it would be. Kudos to Chuck for his entrepreneurial brilliance!

    18. Allison Weilbaker

      I was thinking more along the lines of a seal. Like you would use it like glue when it’s in liquid form then heat it so that the water evaporates then the seal is sandstone. I have no clue if this would work but it seems like it would be cool.

    19. I really liked the last video the sites looked so pristine

    20. Coming from a girl’s point of view I think that producing a product for dead skin removal should not be completely thrown out the window. Microdermabrasions (an intense exfoliating service) have become quite popular in the last five years. Women are always looking for ways to peel off layers of time on their face.

    21. Concrete is a good idea, but not really a practical idea for business because it’s too cheap and there are way too many competitors.
      I think the dead skin removal product is a really good one, he can also form a product line of similar kinds of products. For example, men’s/women’s deep cleaning slurry, women’s facial mask, etc.
      I say go for the dead skin removal idea and expand from there, you will very likely be making more money than mining!

    22. I think something cosmetic would work. What about starting a spa and using the slurry for mud baths? I don’t know what properties a mud bath has but i couldn’t see how that slurry could be much different.

    23. I feel like there are other things that would make better cosmetic ointments, but maybe something like the concrete ideas that some have been talking about. That would prolly be the best solution for him.

    24. it looks just like concrete substance right before it hardens. I’m sure with some experimenting he could find a way together the substance up and produce something that could potentially be hard as concrete. He then could sell it to a mason and make a lot of money. He could be on the verge of something extraordinary!

    25. Yeah it seems like it can be used as a replacement of plaster of paris.
      But it seems less profitable.

    26. I think this is a great idea but i am not sure if it is profitable enough for this idea to be viable.

    27. hmm..well rocks and minerals are always good for skin care. I like the idea of using it for a skin care product. There are never good enough ones that dont dry your skin out.

      However, i’m sure there are more uses that may be more beneficial to him and what he does. Maybe some form of concrete, or maybe just bulding material may be a new idea.

      –Katelyne

    28. i really like the way Chuck looks at life, with dollar signs for eye balls. I think the skin removal product is a excellent idea, especially with how obsessed everyone is becoming with going green. this product is all natural and is helping by getting rid of a byproduct.

    29. I definitely like the idea of converting it into a facial product for women. Depending on the process that would needed to be implemented to the slurry mixture would be a huge factor on seeing if it would be worth it, profitability-wise.

      The cosmetic department (especially that of skin care and anti-aging) is one that is surely a gold mine right now and will only grow in opportunity in the future.

    30. It requires people to be unique to become entrepreneurs,and they can smell money when others only see smelly stuff. They sometimes have unique opinions different form others.

    31. I totally agree with Phillip Jenkins’ ideas. Concrete and glass of all other options are the ones that could be most counted upon. I’m so sure that there will be not one but several applications of the slurry!

    32. These are guys on a complete different level than us, but anyhow, its always fun to see the other sides and what they offer once we get there, if we do XD

    33. I would like to see the slurry applied to skate boards. The top surfaces are rough and the slurry could and a unique look and style to the boards which is something new skateboarders are always trying to promote.
      The slurry could be sold to skate board manufacturers. With California near by boards wouldn’t have to travel far.
      The forestry industry is big in the area so quality wood for the boards would be easy to obtain if a skate board production facility was set up near by.
      The slurry shouldn’t be difficult to die so a new surface color could be applied to the boards or just market the colored limestone into the arts and craft industry.

    34. I also didn’t mention that lime stone grit may have a different density so boards might be manipulated to be lighter or heavier with lime stone grit than the usual grits.

      The grit could be added to tap to make grit tape, or embedded in gear, such as boots and gloves, to prevent slipping.

    35. I know I’m commenting a lot but this blog really interested me.
      I could see the slurry being used in spas as a sorta sandstone mud bath, which wouldn’t take much processing, if any, of the slurry mix.
      I have done rock wall climbing, and if this dust it good at drying out your hands, than it could be but in climber’s powder bags for drying their hands.
      If mixed with a pant or epoxy resin it would probably make an excellent textured surface look or a non slip floor.

    36. It’s amazing that by researching and solving a simple solution one can make millions.

    37. I know women will pay millions for the perfect cure for aging. But when it comes down to it, I dont see making another product for women as the right step. It will just flood the market and probably not make as much profit as Wilkeson would expect. They need to push their slurry into other markets that make things cheaper and easier for companies who need fine grit.

    38. First of all, the basic information kind of reminded me of WA because I was living there for about a year. Secondly, I think that in order to become successful, it does not matter what your occupations are, what your majors were, the only thing that determines your future is how hard your try. For instance, from the blog, I think the concrete one was very innovative, but not really pratical and realistic. However, people should always give themselves a chance to prove if something would work out or not.

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